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2007 Exam paper
November 15, 2007 02:57PM
Hi All,

How is it possible that 10 points in a exam paper can be asked on something that was not even in the syllabus. Raleigh and also the last question. Can't even remember the name of that method.

This means that we started of with only 90 points.

Great going lecturer. Superb paper, or not.

As if all students that I spoke with after the paper didn't even attend certain of the classes. O, sorry, I forgot no attempt from lecturers side to even sent out some assisting notes.

This is the opinion of the student from COS and APM. This is the one module that will cause many students to struggle to finish their degree this year.

Mr. Ken Halland mentioned to me that they didn't know what to do about the second year and third year Numerical Methods modules.

Maybe a suggestion from the students side:

Get a lecturer that actually cares and to be willing to give some assisting documentation.

In my opinion, this is one of the most useful modules in math/cos if you want to do scientific programming, engineering, financial work, because it gives you the power to let the computer do all the hard work for you.

Maybe UNISA should think of revising this module or even show more interest in it.

This was an letter that was initiated from a very serious discussion after the paper.

I hope that the lecturer take this in the good spirit of a lot of stressed out students that really tried their best during the year.

Another thing. The APM students said that they received the solutions on the website as mentioned in the e-mail from the lecturer. NONE of the COS students actually could download those solutions, because it was and still is not available on the COS332 site under announcements.

O, another thing. The APM students say that the assignments count 10% of the year mark, and it shows on the site. This is unfortunately not the case in the COS332 module. I suggest that the lecturer also have a look at that.

I hope that there is other students that didn't experience such problems in this module, but I doubt it.

Good luck with the exam results,

Gert.
Re: 2007 Exam paper
November 15, 2007 04:15PM
I have just come out of this exam very despondent. I am sure I failed.
The paper I wrote today did not resemble the past papers I worked off or the assignments I completed. It put me in a state that I even forgot the simple things I did know.

I felt like it was set to trick me not test my knowledge or application of that knowledge. I would like to iterate that I did not feel like the lecturer enabled my learning of this subject or provided enough guidelines to prepare me for an exam like that.

(1) My assignments were never marked/corrected. I was just given credit for attempting all questions.

(2) We never even got the correct solutions to the assignments


Keith
avatar Re: 2007 Exam paper
November 15, 2007 09:33PM
murfinke Wrote:
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> I have just come out of this exam very despondent.
> I am sure I failed.

likewise, and i consider myself experienced with numerical methods; i've used numerical methods in my programming studies since early high school and specialise in monte carlo methods - which requires knowledge of which methods are best for which purposes etc.

this is not said to brag; i have taken a personal interest in the subject for many years and found the exam to be unreasonably difficult (for no good reason - the course syllabus isn't easy of course but i mean difficult in the sense of requiring heroic feats of memorisation).

> The paper I wrote today did not resemble the past
> papers I worked off or the assignments I completed.

yes, it was a 180 degree turn from ALL the other exams. "didn't memorise the runge kutta 4th order formulae? too bad for you." 12% gone right off the bat, and is it so in reality that you'll have to memorise the formulae or not be able to use / understand them?

> It put me in a state that I even forgot
> the simple things I did know.

likewise, i was making the most embarassing mistakes for two pages on the last question where they wanted us to solve (not just set up) the system.

the worst part is that i could have EASILY given program code to solve it, on paper without any compiler assistance! the whole idea of this course is that we can solve "real world" problems which need more than just "sanitised" algebra with nice solutions and a little pocket calculator work - that i learnt to do this in this course helped me NOT ONE IOTA in the exam!

> I felt like it was set to trick me not test my
> knowledge or application of that knowledge.

it is this sentiment which i agree most with. that exam was nothing short of unfair and artificial - to not have the decency of giving a fat block of formulae with which we can work is just ridiculous. that implies that we should also have completely memorised:

1. modified euler and midpoint (i only remembered modified euler, not midpoint)
2. rk2 and all parameters
3. rk4 and all parameters
4. rkf and all parameters (!!)
5. adams and all parameters
6. adams-moulton and all parameters
7. milne's and all parameters
8. all the others...

what's that i hear the lecturers saying? remembering rk4 isn't so bad? how were we to know we were expected to memorise only that, did you indicate it in any way so that we could avoid having to learn each and every fat block of formulae covered in the textbook? actually exactly the opposite was indicated in the past papers - the formulae were always provided for the students to make sense of and use properly. is that suddenly not the proper way of doing it anymore?

i'm not a sissy who can't remember formulae when needed (and i do know most of them by heart), but at least indicate which are to be memorised. pointing to a textbook which is 50% formulae page-for-page is not very helpful, nor are past papers which indicate that we don't have to memorise these raw formulae at all!

> I would like to iterate that I did not feel like the
> lecturer enabled my learning of this subject or
> provided enough guidelines to prepare me for an
> exam like that.

yeah, and it's a crying shame because the year's assignments were great to solve on a computer.
avatar Re: 2007 Exam paper
November 15, 2007 10:08PM
one more thing, I BET YOU this paper will not be given next year as a past paper. i bet it will be conveniently forgotten about, and we have absolutely no way of reproducing the paper because it's unisa property!!

that's what makes me angry the most. this event will be "those useless computer science students who all failed in 2007", and we will never be able to prove otherwise.
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