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Anonymous User
Web dev question
May 16, 2008 09:55AM
Hey guys,

I need to ask a question for anyone who is actively involved in Web development (specifically CSS, web forms etc)

Is there some sort of open source tool for visually prototyping a web form with. I have tried a few (e.g. Quanta+, BlueFish, SeaMonkey's Composer etc) but none of them really allow me to just throw a button on the web page and position it where ever I like.

I find it really hard to get the web page looking exactly like I want it to - I was just wondering how the pros out there on this forum do it? I don't want to have to manually type in inline style attributes for DIVs and tables etc (cos this seems like too much work lol). This can't be how it's really done?!

thanks for any help,

kramlen
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May 16, 2008 10:04AM
front page smiling smiley
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May 16, 2008 10:06AM
or excel. you can do anything with excel.....thats why its the biggest enemy of a good architecture smiling smiley
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:15AM
Uh... "Open Source"? I work on linux man...I guess I can consider this thread hijacked.

If anyone has any serious answers please mail me : thornza@yahoo.com

thanks alot.
avatar Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:19AM
It is open source, just reverse engineer into assembly...
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:20AM
gmail ftw
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:24AM
@Rick i wouldn't give my gmail address out on this list lol. The yahoo one is an I address
I can burn if I need to

@Riaan man, don't they give you enough work in that high paying job of yours hey? tongue sticking out smiley
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May 16, 2008 10:27AM
I think I am on a go slow today, so tired. Had a meeting with my supervisors until 12pm last night................at the blue crane over a few bottles of wine smiling smiley
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May 16, 2008 10:28AM
is it 12pm or am at that stage? eye rolling smiley
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May 16, 2008 10:29AM
ok. use open office's spreadsheet.

And use it like you would use Excel.

 
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Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:37AM
12 am

and wow - you guys weren't joking about excel were you:

http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/081001-1.shtml


I think I might starting using excel for my c++ code generation as well.
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 10:43AM
i get someone else to do it. I make things work, I don't make things look pretty winking smiley
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Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:08PM
celene Wrote:
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> i get someone else to do it. I make things work,
> I don't make things look pretty

So who puts on your makeup huh smile

All that effort in Excel to create a form with 5 fields??
Make a snippet of most often used code, copy, paste and edit. I have yet to find something that beats it. PHP (for the enlightened web developers smiling smiley has many form classes available - see http://www.formhandler.net/ for example which simplifies things (coding side) should you want to go that route.

CSS div's for layout. But I find I spend more time trying to position a div correctly than coding. Methinks a good old table layout is faster to fit in all browsers (mostly). Years ago one tried not to nest more than 3 tables. No more.

I stand corrected.
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:09PM
To answer the original question, I do type everything manually to get stuff where I want it ie. buttons, text boxes, drop downs etc.

There are stylesheets set up already which my boss developed for the background colours, font size, style, border colour etc etc.
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:10PM
That's another point, we hardly ever use divs. We use tables for everything, its just so much easier to position stuff and colspan and rowspan make it even easier to line stuff up.
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:14PM
I don't wear makeup grinning smiley

I am allergic to most of the crud on the market anyhows
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:17PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one tongue sticking out smiley
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May 16, 2008 12:35PM
I wear make up....and i out it on myself. But only over weekends...
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May 16, 2008 12:36PM
nesting tables is bad form smiling bouncing smiley

 
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 ((_/)o o(\_))
  `-'(. .)`-'
      \_/
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Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:37PM
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May 16, 2008 12:37PM
edit:

out = put
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 12:38PM
Ilan, I see you got your sense of humour back. Are you getting more sleep now? spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 01:08PM
re: out = put

a Freudian slip there?
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 01:10PM
can't really be much of a freudian slip - we all know Riaan wanted to come out loooong ago winking smiley
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May 16, 2008 01:10PM
there was no mention of any doors opening smiling smiley
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May 16, 2008 01:11PM
I must admit, I have a huge crush on Randal and Lycium....seeing those two gunning for each other is a major turn on!
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May 16, 2008 01:16PM
I wanted to say down eachother's throats, but decided not to smiling smiley
Anonymous User
Re: Web dev question
May 16, 2008 02:38PM
but you just did....
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May 16, 2008 04:10PM
I know smiling smiley
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May 18, 2008 03:30PM
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That's another point, we hardly ever use divs. We use tables for everything, its just so much easier to position stuff and colspan and rowspan make it even easier to line stuff up.
This is what the rest of the web development world likes to call bad style smiling smiley

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